Comments on: Make Your Own Shibuichi Clay http://artinsilver.com/blog/2010/02/06/make-your-own-shibuichi-clay/ Metal Clay - copper, bronze, steel, and White Bronze Wed, 15 Feb 2012 18:04:27 -0800 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Mary Ellin D'Agostino http://artinsilver.com/blog/2010/02/06/make-your-own-shibuichi-clay/comment-page-1/#comment-2751 Mary Ellin D'Agostino Sun, 14 Feb 2010 03:38:58 +0000 http://artinsilver.com/blog/?p=2336#comment-2751 For more info on experiments mixing silver and copper check out http://medacreations.wordpress.com. I have published some of my experiements and results there. For more info on experiments mixing silver and copper check out http://medacreations.wordpress.com.
I have published some of my experiements and results there.

]]> By: Hadar Jacobson http://artinsilver.com/blog/2010/02/06/make-your-own-shibuichi-clay/comment-page-1/#comment-2684 Hadar Jacobson Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:01:37 +0000 http://artinsilver.com/blog/?p=2336#comment-2684 Jenny, When you mix metals the melting temperature drops, and so does the sintering temperature. That's why you got the bubbles. If you liked the color you can try lower the temperature. One of my students mixed steel and bronze and got a wonderful color. To your question: glycerin may help but I believe it will still get grainy. That why I make very small amounts at a time. When it gets grainy it also helps just rolling it over and over with the rolling pin. It makes it smooth again. Jenny,

When you mix metals the melting temperature drops, and so does the sintering temperature. That’s why you got the bubbles. If you liked the color you can try lower the temperature. One of my students mixed steel and bronze and got a wonderful color. To your question: glycerin may help but I believe it will still get grainy. That why I make very small amounts at a time. When it gets grainy it also helps just rolling it over and over with the rolling pin. It makes it smooth again.

]]> By: Hadar Jacobson http://artinsilver.com/blog/2010/02/06/make-your-own-shibuichi-clay/comment-page-1/#comment-2683 Hadar Jacobson Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:55:57 +0000 http://artinsilver.com/blog/?p=2336#comment-2683 Lori, The advantage of the fiber blanket is better sintering and quicker firing. The stainless steel box is a poor heat conductor and inhibits sintering. It also oxidizes and contamintes the kiln. Eventually it will disintegrate. The fiber blanket is cheap, and keeps your kiln clean and safe. If you are worried about toxicity don't use it. Build a ceramic box as described in my posting and instruction manual. It is a little more awkward to handle but just as efficiant. Lori,

The advantage of the fiber blanket is better sintering and quicker firing. The stainless steel box is a poor heat conductor and inhibits sintering. It also oxidizes and contamintes the kiln. Eventually it will disintegrate. The fiber blanket is cheap, and keeps your kiln clean and safe. If you are worried about toxicity don’t use it. Build a ceramic box as described in my posting and instruction manual. It is a little more awkward to handle but just as efficiant.

]]> By: Lori http://artinsilver.com/blog/2010/02/06/make-your-own-shibuichi-clay/comment-page-1/#comment-2681 Lori Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:29:07 +0000 http://artinsilver.com/blog/?p=2336#comment-2681 I am just new to metal clay and I have a question about the purpose of using a fiber blanket instead of using a metal box. Specifically what are the benefits one over the other. It is my understanding that the fabric is very highly toxic and dangerous to use. I am just new to metal clay and I have a question about the purpose of using a fiber blanket instead of using a metal box. Specifically what are the benefits one over the other. It is my understanding that the fabric is very highly toxic and dangerous to use.

]]> By: Jenny James http://artinsilver.com/blog/2010/02/06/make-your-own-shibuichi-clay/comment-page-1/#comment-2680 Jenny James Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:17:58 +0000 http://artinsilver.com/blog/?p=2336#comment-2680 I tried mixing 20% steel with 80% silver. It sintered poorly and was ... to put it simply... UGLY. It tarnished as soon as I stopped cleaning it. Black just kept coming off of it no matter how long I sanded and brushed it... I tried a 50/50 mix of steel/copper. It looked like rusted steel. It sintered very well at a lower temp than steel alone. At higher heat it bubbled and pitted like bronze. I dont know if I would try it again, other than that the clay itself was much easier to work with than steel. I am having a really hard time working with steel clay as it is so grainy. Do you think that adding glycerin might help it to be smoother? I tried mixing 20% steel with 80% silver. It sintered poorly and was … to put it simply… UGLY. It tarnished as soon as I stopped cleaning it. Black just kept coming off of it no matter how long I sanded and brushed it…

I tried a 50/50 mix of steel/copper. It looked like rusted steel. It sintered very well at a lower temp than steel alone. At higher heat it bubbled and pitted like bronze. I dont know if I would try it again, other than that the clay itself was much easier to work with than steel.
I am having a really hard time working with steel clay as it is so grainy. Do you think that adding glycerin might help it to be smoother?

]]> By: Hadar Jacobson http://artinsilver.com/blog/2010/02/06/make-your-own-shibuichi-clay/comment-page-1/#comment-2650 Hadar Jacobson Mon, 08 Feb 2010 04:58:30 +0000 http://artinsilver.com/blog/?p=2336#comment-2650 Alcina, Yes, it should enamel well. Cindy, We can do that if we have time. Can you have some patinas handy? Alcina,

Yes, it should enamel well.

Cindy,

We can do that if we have time. Can you have some patinas handy?

]]> By: Cindy http://artinsilver.com/blog/2010/02/06/make-your-own-shibuichi-clay/comment-page-1/#comment-2647 Cindy Mon, 08 Feb 2010 04:29:42 +0000 http://artinsilver.com/blog/?p=2336#comment-2647 Wow Hadar - so timely with the Art Jewelry article peaking everyone's interest. You are amazing - can't wait to do mixed metals with you in April in Colorado - will be do a Shibuichi mix? Wow Hadar – so timely with the Art Jewelry article peaking everyone’s interest. You are amazing – can’t wait to do mixed metals with you in April in Colorado – will be do a Shibuichi mix?

]]> By: Tonya Davidson http://artinsilver.com/blog/2010/02/06/make-your-own-shibuichi-clay/comment-page-1/#comment-2630 Tonya Davidson Sun, 07 Feb 2010 15:23:28 +0000 http://artinsilver.com/blog/?p=2336#comment-2630 Hadar, Thank you so much! I appreciate how you push the envelope and continue to inspire us. I have been wanting to do this since I first heard copper clay was coming out. I just never have the time. I can live vicariously through you ;-) Again, thank you for sharing and being generous with your knowledge. Cheers, Tonya www.wholelottawhimsy.com www.tonyadavidson.com Hadar, Thank you so much! I appreciate how you push the envelope and continue to inspire us. I have been wanting to do this since I first heard copper clay was coming out. I just never have the time. I can live vicariously through you ;-)
Again, thank you for sharing and being generous with your knowledge.
Cheers,

Tonya
http://www.wholelottawhimsy.com
http://www.tonyadavidson.com

]]> By: Kathy Bradley http://artinsilver.com/blog/2010/02/06/make-your-own-shibuichi-clay/comment-page-1/#comment-2629 Kathy Bradley Sun, 07 Feb 2010 13:25:56 +0000 http://artinsilver.com/blog/?p=2336#comment-2629 I would like to be a "fly on the wall of your studio" to observe your amazing use of a 24-hr day. You try and test everything, then photograph your steps and results, then share your results with all of us. Thank you so much. You are truly an inspiration to us all. I would like to be a “fly on the wall of your studio” to observe your amazing use of a 24-hr day. You try and test everything, then photograph your steps and results, then share your results with all of us. Thank you so much. You are truly an inspiration to us all.

]]> By: Alcina http://artinsilver.com/blog/2010/02/06/make-your-own-shibuichi-clay/comment-page-1/#comment-2627 Alcina Sun, 07 Feb 2010 12:45:22 +0000 http://artinsilver.com/blog/?p=2336#comment-2627 This would enamel well, shouldn't it? This would enamel well, shouldn’t it?

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