Comments on: Testing the Strength of Fired Pieces http://artinsilver.com/blog/2009/04/02/testing-the-strength-of-fired-pieces/ Metal Clay - copper, bronze, steel, and White Bronze Wed, 15 Feb 2012 18:04:27 -0800 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Parvez Ahmed http://artinsilver.com/blog/2009/04/02/testing-the-strength-of-fired-pieces/comment-page-1/#comment-3201 Parvez Ahmed Sun, 07 Mar 2010 06:26:08 +0000 http://artinsilver.com/blog/?p=770#comment-3201 Hello Hadar You have a really impressive article up there. I do not have indepth knowledge about the various metals and its compounds specially it is not my field...I am from a garment manufacturing field. My curiosity led me to your page when I was tryinmg to find a suitable test requirement for long chains. We have designed a garment which will have a decorative chain at the back to hold the garment together. It breaks when I tried twisting it...but it is OK when a person wears it. I was wondering if there is a specific evaluation that could certify the chain as "good quality" by passing a particular pull pressure. Could you please help. Thank you. Hello Hadar
You have a really impressive article up there. I do not have indepth knowledge about the various metals and its compounds specially it is not my field…I am from a garment manufacturing field. My curiosity led me to your page when I was tryinmg to find a suitable test requirement for long chains. We have designed a garment which will have a decorative chain at the back to hold the garment together. It breaks when I tried twisting it…but it is OK when a person wears it. I was wondering if there is a specific evaluation that could certify the chain as “good quality” by passing a particular pull pressure.
Could you please help. Thank you.

]]> By: jen http://artinsilver.com/blog/2009/04/02/testing-the-strength-of-fired-pieces/comment-page-1/#comment-242 jen Fri, 22 May 2009 18:52:35 +0000 http://artinsilver.com/blog/?p=770#comment-242 i love your work! wow ,you are a true artist. i am a beginner at working with clay in comparison. i too sold rings that were returned now i just make for myself... i just starting to use copper and bronze and trying to learn what the heck the charcoal is about. anyway good luck with your book, i just wrote one out in a few weeks and have another out this summer on total different subjects. thanks for this site! xo j i love your work! wow ,you are a true artist. i am a beginner at working with clay in comparison. i too sold rings that were returned now i just make for myself… i just starting to use copper and bronze and trying to learn what the heck the charcoal is about. anyway good luck with your book, i just wrote one out in a few weeks and have another out this summer on total different subjects. thanks for this site! xo j

]]> By: ann schneider http://artinsilver.com/blog/2009/04/02/testing-the-strength-of-fired-pieces/comment-page-1/#comment-233 ann schneider Tue, 19 May 2009 23:09:40 +0000 http://artinsilver.com/blog/?p=770#comment-233 What exquisite pieces and what a genius, both creatively and technically you must be. I love the tutorial on the hinged pendant at the Guild site. It was the first complicated piece I tried and now I understand a lot more than I did! Thank you for all you do. ann What exquisite pieces and what a genius, both creatively and technically you must be. I love the tutorial on the hinged pendant at the Guild site. It was the first complicated piece I tried and now I understand a lot more than I did! Thank you for all you do.
ann

]]> By: Sarah Triton http://artinsilver.com/blog/2009/04/02/testing-the-strength-of-fired-pieces/comment-page-1/#comment-47 Sarah Triton Fri, 03 Apr 2009 22:29:44 +0000 http://artinsilver.com/blog/?p=770#comment-47 I completely agree, but actually did break some pieces in my first bronze firing last summer. My largest piece from that bronze batch broke when I tried to use my leather mallet to straighten it out, and THAT broke my heart. I completely agree, but actually did break some pieces in my first bronze firing last summer. My largest piece from that bronze batch broke when I tried to use my leather mallet to straighten it out, and THAT broke my heart.

]]> By: Miranda http://artinsilver.com/blog/2009/04/02/testing-the-strength-of-fired-pieces/comment-page-1/#comment-46 Miranda Fri, 03 Apr 2009 21:49:35 +0000 http://artinsilver.com/blog/?p=770#comment-46 HAH, what a silly and wasteful notion this "try to break it up" thing... what for? I happen to own an 18K and natural crystal necklace, purchased for fivefigures from a world renowned jeweler. I've worn it 3 times maybe and always kept it in its original travel pouch - one of the links in the delicate chain broke. Do I think less of the jeweler? Absolutely not. Would I not purchase again from the? NOT... Do I like my piece less? Nope... Jewelry is portable/tactile art in my view. HAH, what a silly and wasteful notion this “try to break it up” thing… what for?
I happen to own an 18K and natural crystal necklace, purchased for fivefigures from a world renowned jeweler. I’ve worn it 3 times maybe and always kept it in its original travel pouch – one of the links in the delicate chain broke. Do I think less of the jeweler? Absolutely not. Would I not purchase again from the? NOT… Do I like my piece less? Nope… Jewelry is portable/tactile art in my view.

]]> By: Mary Ellin D'Agostino http://artinsilver.com/blog/2009/04/02/testing-the-strength-of-fired-pieces/comment-page-1/#comment-45 Mary Ellin D'Agostino Fri, 03 Apr 2009 20:20:04 +0000 http://artinsilver.com/blog/?p=770#comment-45 Yes, such testing of experimental pieces is one thing, but to do pliers testing on a fully finished piece is rediculous. Especially since the goal of such testing is add pressure until the piece does break. People should keep in mind that any metal can have a flaw in it and that the flaw may cause it to break. This is true of cast metals, sheet, wire, and metal clay. Yes, such testing of experimental pieces is one thing, but to do pliers testing on a fully finished piece is rediculous. Especially since the goal of such testing is add pressure until the piece does break.

People should keep in mind that any metal can have a flaw in it and that the flaw may cause it to break. This is true of cast metals, sheet, wire, and metal clay.

]]> By: Tamara Culp http://artinsilver.com/blog/2009/04/02/testing-the-strength-of-fired-pieces/comment-page-1/#comment-44 Tamara Culp Fri, 03 Apr 2009 14:36:41 +0000 http://artinsilver.com/blog/?p=770#comment-44 You expressed my sentiments exactly,Hadar. I expect my jewelry to last as long as it is treated like jewelry, not construction material. Can you imagine what would happen if I took pliers to someone's 18K gold brooch and then complained that it wasn't sturdy enough?! You expressed my sentiments exactly,Hadar. I expect my jewelry to last as long as it is treated like jewelry, not construction material. Can you imagine what would happen if I took pliers to someone’s 18K gold brooch and then complained that it wasn’t sturdy enough?!

]]> By: Laura Smith-Hos http://artinsilver.com/blog/2009/04/02/testing-the-strength-of-fired-pieces/comment-page-1/#comment-43 Laura Smith-Hos Fri, 03 Apr 2009 13:21:37 +0000 http://artinsilver.com/blog/?p=770#comment-43 I agree, testing with pliers seems a bit extreme! I do occasionally "test" pieces with my fingers. If I can bend/break them with my fingers, then I figure they wouldn't stand up to normal wear and tear...but i think MOST jewelry & especially metal clay jewelry can be bent and broken if you apply the pliers! Thanks so much Hadar for sharing all your trials! I agree, testing with pliers seems a bit extreme! I do occasionally “test” pieces with my fingers. If I can bend/break them with my fingers, then I figure they wouldn’t stand up to normal wear and tear…but i think MOST jewelry & especially metal clay jewelry can be bent and broken if you apply the pliers! Thanks so much Hadar for sharing all your trials!

]]> By: Angela http://artinsilver.com/blog/2009/04/02/testing-the-strength-of-fired-pieces/comment-page-1/#comment-42 Angela Fri, 03 Apr 2009 11:39:48 +0000 http://artinsilver.com/blog/?p=770#comment-42 Thanks for posting this in answer to my question. I myself wouldn't take pliers to a finished, hard-worked piece either. But to a test sample fired together with it during the testing of a new process still seems to be useful to me. Thanks for your post. This is a beautiful piece, as usual. Thanks for posting this in answer to my question. I myself wouldn’t take pliers to a finished, hard-worked piece either. But to a test sample fired together with it during the testing of a new process still seems to be useful to me. Thanks for your post.
This is a beautiful piece, as usual.

]]> By: Leila Godden http://artinsilver.com/blog/2009/04/02/testing-the-strength-of-fired-pieces/comment-page-1/#comment-41 Leila Godden Fri, 03 Apr 2009 07:27:15 +0000 http://artinsilver.com/blog/?p=770#comment-41 Hadar, your jewellery is absolutely stunning! The blog is exceptionally helpful and provides an invaluable resource as I begin my exploration of the possibilities with bronze and copper clay. Thank you for sharing so generously and eloquently. Hadar, your jewellery is absolutely stunning! The blog is exceptionally helpful and provides an invaluable resource as I begin my exploration of the possibilities with bronze and copper clay. Thank you for sharing so generously and eloquently.

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